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News/Upates 11/1/8: Added Sound Drone since old site doesn't seem to want to host it anymore (and I couldn't find it in a quick Google search). 3/11/8: Added more Thief 3 sounds. 3/9/8: Fixed Sound Drone link and title font newlines, added newsgroup and Wikipedia links, and italicized names. 6/11/4: Updated Thief 3's ambient music removal. 6/9/4: Updated Thief 3's ambient music table. 6/8/4: Renamed Thief 3's "more INI-tweaks" link. Added Thief 3 to "Removing Ambient Music". 6/3/4: Changed Thief 3 Patcher link. Found some gear bugs. Changed ambient music table font. Added "Other" section and download link image. Updated Thief 3 Patcher readme with another bug. 6/1/4: Changed table border color and Thief 3 tweaks link. Updated T3 Patcher 5/31/4: Fixed patcher link. Created News/Updates section. 5/30/4: Added Thief: Deadly Shadows section. Edited layout. 3/28/2K: ? Thief: Deadly Shadows T3 Patcher (40K) by Myagi: Change frob (highlighted object) color, enable/disable loot percentage, remove (or replace with subtle) arrow trails, enable/disable loot glint. See readme.txt for more info. Through The Looking Glass Forums - Thief 3 Tweak Guide RGB-to-RW Color: Converts between RGB (0-255) color to Thief's 0-1 color scale. Other See how Thiefs 1 and 2 compare to other games in my 3D game comparison.

Removing Ambient Music Remove the WAV(s) from snd.crf (ZIP) you don't want to hear. I took out most of the ambient music (because they would not shut up after I disabled music in Thief's options, and I can still hear them in Thief 2 with the ambient music volume all the way down). Unfortunately, it seems that if any sounds are missing from Thief 2's snd.crf file, Thief 2 will quit back to Windows once a level is loaded. Looks like Looking Glass screwed something up... :/ Thief: The Dark Project Thief 2: The Metal Age ..Thief\snd.crf\sfx\ ..Thief 2\res\snd.crf\sfx\ WAV Size (bytes) WAV Size (bytes) abyss 1,120,128 basemen2 119,470 bellthmp 70,716 basement 107,694 bridge1 35,526 beatbel1 92,878 diffuse 66,620 bellthmp 70,716 dronelp 48,556 brassl 151,538 egglp1 22,726 btrem1 39,056 fb1 84,028 btrem2 39,568 fb2 61,500 btrem3 37,008 fb3 65,596 btrem4 40,592 fb4 90,172 btrem5 42,044 ffall1 82,054 fb1 84,028 ffall2 79,042 fb10 47,932 ffall3 64,742 fb2 61,500 ffall4 48,998 fb3 65,596 howltxta 73,276 fb4 90,172 howltxtb 75,324 fb5 39,996 m02bs1 67,432 fb6 55,612 m02bs2a 41,932 fb7 46,908 m02bs2b 41,452 fb8 45,884 m02bs2c 42,092 fb9 37,692 m02bs2d 43,324 l14_wail 167,730 m04cat1a 154,284 l14wail1 223,362 m04cat1b 110,636 l14wail2 216,194 m04cat1c 150,590 l14wail3 166,018 m04cat2a 144,876 l14wail4 137,346 m04cat2b 124,168 l2_base1 231,598 m04cat2c 151,276 l7_base1 925,870 m05loop1 58,866 l7_basem 169,090 m05loop2 117,704 m01drone 68,944 m05loop3 117,664 m01tone1 84,152 m13str 103,900 m01tone2 82,206 pitch1 188,908 m01tone3 159,362 pitch2 186,156 m01tone4 104,610 pitch3 185,772 m01tone5 120,980 squarelo 22,726 m01tone6 108,726 str1 24,892 m01tone7 177,310 str2 23,100 m01tone8 172,762 str3 24,380 m04lo 721,040 str4 24,380 m04ring 1,032,236 subson1 90,118 m07wax 148,028 subson2 71,534 m10boing 140,432 tension1 48,704 pbridge 35,526 tension2 58,648 s01mel1 333,912 tension3 47,042 s01mel2 456,848 tension7 48,880 s0400 675,984 tone1 162,450 subson1 90,118 tone2 139,218 subson4 85,318 tone3 92,600 substr1 90,144 tone4 190,226 swells2 931,970 tone5 152,466 tension1 70,530 vox1 93,226 throblo 36,412 vox2 97,994 vln_hit1 231,528 vox3 96,966 vln_hit2 257,136 voxloop 93,648 vln_hit3 254,036 voxtrans 42,318 vln_hit4 273,458 windstil 73,276 vln_hit5 241,754 56 files 4,838,828 bytes vlncalm1 262,188 voicel1 169,150 voxloop2 102,026 59 files 11,271,918 bytes Questionable Thief 2 sounds: airtone*, amb_low*, cave*, den*, hum2, lite*, lowtrem, paglit*, portal, singing*, sts_amb1, trem*, vikglow*, wingedf Thief 3 (Deadly Shadows) has an annoying bug: if music is set to 0 ("off") in the options, it will resume at full volume if any option is changed or a game is saved. A quick fix (thanks to SpammersDie via the alt.games.thief-dark-project newsgroup) to get rid of all music and ambient sounds is to change "MusicAndAmbienceVolume=1.0" to 0 in default.ini under the [Cadence] section. Unfortunately, removing sounds (WAVs/OGGs) from Thief 3 requires a bit more work (based off a TTLG forum post). The sounds are mostly in the ..\Thief - Deadly Shadows\CONTENT\T3\Sounds\SchemaMetafile_HardDrive.csc file (but music, dialog, and some ambient sounds are in the other CSC files). Use Sound Drone (alternate link) to view their contents (until something Thief 3-specific comes along, anyway) if you want to hear/extract them. You'll need a hex editor (I use UltraEdit but any should suffice) to edit the CSC file and change the names of each sound you don't want to be played. If Thief 3 can't find the sound file in the CSC file, it will check the "sounds" directory for it. If not there, the sound simply won't play (and won't crash the game, as far as I can tell). Thief: Deadly Shadows ..Thief - Deadly Shadows\CONTENT\T3\Sounds\*.csc ID WAV/OGG Size (bytes) m06cave m16cave amb_caves.ogg 1,619,165 m04church amb_churchs.ogg 402,478 m07song amb_clocktower1s.ogg 713,126 m07song2 amb_clocktower2s.ogg 1,374,000 m02dist amb_dists.ogg 245,596 m06drips amb_dripss.ogg 1,183,444 m06groove amb_dungeons.ogg 958,464 m04hammers amb_hammers.ogg 668,650 m01hit m01hit2 m01hit3 amb_inn_hit1s.ogg 128,924 m01hit m01hit2 m01hit3 amb_inn_hit2s.ogg 189,579 m01hit m01hit2 m01hit3 amb_inn_hit3s.ogg 275,802 m01hit m01hit2 m01hit3 amb_inn_hit4s.ogg 364,641 m04drums drums 62,198 m06chrips chirpslo4 89,562 m10cluster cluster2 89,562 hollow hollow3 m03hollow m05hollow m06hollow m07hollow m08hollow m11hollow m13hollow m14hollow m16hollow hollow 52,030 hollow2 m04hollow hollow2 68,370 m11hum hum 84,982 m08heartbeat m08heartbeat 90,062 m08hum m16hum m08hums 209,530 m08mel m08mel1 94,854 m08mel m08mel2 94,134 m08organ m08organ1 137,802 m08organ m08organ2 135,426 m08swell m12swell m08swell 170,413 m09children m09children1 145,326 m09children m09children2 143,598 m09children m09children3 105,870 m09haunted m09haunted1s.ogg 2,091,678 m09haunted2 m09haunted2s.ogg 1,052,129 m09haunted3 m09haunted3s.ogg 564,681 m09stitch m09stitch2 m09stitchs.ogg 1,209,420 m10mel m10mel1.ogg 309,484 m10mel2.ogg 252,920 m10mel3.ogg 315,292 m10mel4.ogg 225,683 m10strings m10strings1 124,544 m10strings2 81,642 m10strings3 73,002 Pretty much all amb_*.ogg sounds are ambient background suspense-type noise with the exception of amb_critterss (insects and vegetation rustling) and amb_starts (start level). I don't think I got all of them, so if anyone knows anymore, email me.